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Intimidate. no matter what, what you do have is situation where a president has floated one thing while knowing that it was never true. whereas jim comey has been consistent in terms of his account. it's that issue that the experts have mostly said will come into play on the credibility question. >> i try to look at things the other side. i could not come up with an innocent reading of that james comey tweet and couple it with the fact that we wasn't going to answer and he waited 41 days. i cannot come up with an innocent explanation other than when he was trying to intimidate comey. >> the on...

That support his preconceived idea that somehow the president was a liar, somehow the president was somebody he did not trust, somehow he had to do things with this particular president -- >> brianna, you hit on an important point here which is that in the court of public opinion, in terms of mueller's investigation, this is going to be a credibility question. does donald trump have more credibility than james comey. james comey not only has the memos he wrote ted to back up his account but we know donald trump tends to exaggerate, has lied in the past. when you compare their records, donald t...

Director if he did not stop the flynn investigation or other aspects of the russia investigation. >> quickly, page, how would the version of the president ever be part of the testimony equation on capitol hill? he would not be called to testify? >> i can't imagine he would. we expect to see a series of tweets while comey is testifying. this is not true. that's not what i said. if they can keep his phone away from him, maybe we won't see that. maybe we get another non answer from press secretary sean spicer about what the white house position is. this is a credibility question. do you believe j...

These contemporaneous notes he kept after his conversation with the president. will he be able to read from them or rely on memory from these notes >> first rely on memory. they will ask him what did you and the president talk about. did you feel pressured by the president. i think his testimony will be very different from what president trump has said about those meetings. the question is who is right? do we believe comey or the president? then we go back to those peoplepeopl it's common to make some sort of record of important conversations they have. they testify to these things all the tim...

>> chris? so as the russian investigations heat up, the head of the house oversight committee is stepping down. why? and who will take the place of republican jason chaffetz. we're going to talk to the ranking democrat and committee elijah cummings what his stepping down means, what the investigation means and the new credibility question for the vice president, next. er lexus lc 500 or the multistage hybrid lc 500h. experience amazing.