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Back in may that what the special counsel might be trying to do is not just get manafort to sing, but get him to compose, meaning either manafort or other witnesses come up with stuff that may or may not be true, as you mentioned rick gates, the star witness testifying today. he admitted to crimes that he committed. let's remember that he is somebody who has admitted to lying to federal investigators, so he has a credibility question and again, none of this gets at alleged russian collusion. a new frenzy that was whipped up d this weekend because of thatpe tweet you mentioned at the top of the...

Interesting because ellis warned back in may that what the special counsel might be trying to do is not just get manafort to sing, but get him to compose, meaning either manafort or other witnesses come up with stuff that may or may not be true, as you mentioned rick gates, the star witness testifying today. he admitted to crimes that he committed. let's remember that he is somebody who has admitted to lying to federal investigators, so he has a credibility question and again, none of this gets at alleged russian collusion. a new frenzy that was whipped up this weekend because of that tweet yo...

Robert mueller and his team are aware and going through them? or is this michael cohen trying to cut a deal? >> a great question. the point is, they have recordings and where your question goes, mike, wait a minute, how did this get in front of the public? the team has been close, they have not leaked this. they say, would michael cohen have leaked this? no, i don't believe so because it does not help him. i think giuliani, the trump side wanted to have this credibility question. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. julie: a summer day is the remains of american service members from the k...

Scene isn't really helping in this regard of the credibility question. >> steve, i want to get your take on this and add to the equation as you consider it. sarah huckabee sanders, in her defense, she may not be getting any information with which to work from facts, you know. >> or the information that she had at ten to 9:00 changed at 9:00. this is an administration, you need a neck brace to watch what is happening. i do want to say this. look, in fairness, every administration has communications directors and as a congressman, every member of congress has comps directors, press secretaries w...

Bigger concern for them than the credibility question. normally a president at this point in tenure, credibility looks that bad in key polls and measures and jeff said, their own measures seeing the same things. that would care a lot about that. this president thinks he can say what he wants to say, exaggerates here, embellishes here, what people expect of him. if he can't be the change agent he promised people won't tolerate that much longer and i think they're aware of that. >> also i say we talk about the polls through such a political lens. obviously, these poll numbers were very important...