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New's organizations are discredited and doomed. they devalued their own currency. >> like the boy who cried wolf. >> you had rioting and the electors having death threats and they want recounts now and now, they are saying it was rigged by the russians. if the republicans had behaved this way, can you you imagine the hysterial and vitrol that was aimed for all of the ridiculous behavior. can you imagine? >> i wouldn't defend it. if the republicans claimed that hillary was in touch with foreign powers. if there is evidence present it and convince me and win me over. but to it make grave allegat...

Policy. you're going to call me racist. that card doesn't work any more. when you run into an instance where you might want more denunciation and i think there's actually a point there. i'm not sure donald trump did denounce further that it would do him all that much good. >> that's a valid point m.k. is making and you get a full credit for saying it back in the primary. i remember you saying it. >> i was making the point for myself, donald trump supporters and for you. >> i remember. you get full credit for that. a little of the boy who cried wolf kind of thing. you wind up taking away the po...

Even the most kind conservatives are portrayed as evil my sojnistic. now donald trump comes along. he's a jerk and may be an s.o.b., but he's our s.o.b. they are defending the indefensible in some cases. that's part of the story. >> does that mean it's not true about some aspects of what someone may be saying, their personality or beliefs because donald trump might be worse on the issue? maybe there were things. >> could be a nice bigot. >> democrats cried wolf. >> a lot of -- go ahead. >> actually, i agree. if you look back over time. john mccain and mitt romney, i think they would have been ...

That sarah palin is somehow racist because one person in the crowd has a sign that cause barack obama a socialist. and then in 2012, mitt romney is killing cancer patients. donald trump is a different candidate than all of those men. a different character than all of those men. but try telling that to somebody in middle america who has grown up every four years hearing about how republicans hate black people, hate old people, hate women. they have a war on women. they have a war on black people. and they have a war on everybody who is not white. cried wolf. >> i think the distinct between demo...

Crass and racist and sexist things in a way we have not had in the past, where we've had accusations, where we've had right-wing theories or a left wing theory. but here you really have a man who has lived what he is being presented as and i think that that is a big difference. so i do think hillary clinton is going to raise character tonight as somebody who, it is not just about where -- what you've done and what you've said, it is about how you make people feel. and what we want is a president who is going to make people feel better about who they are. >> and with trump as the nominee, as de...