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Right now my message to fox news is build your ratings because if we don't go bigger as a republican party, we can't win in november. so i want them to talk to independents. it's not changing our value or who we are as republicans, but get more opportunistic about the chance to bring more people in. >> governor, i can promise you this, at nbc news, if you make a mistake like that, you would lose your job. i know that here for what it's worth. >> not you, i'm not worried about you. >> i appreciate you saying that. thanks for joining us. president biden gave a lifeline to others by trying to l...

The actist base where democrats look like they go in one direction but crumble under the pressure of republican talking points. i think what i am hearing is the message that this emits is that we think that these core constituencies are expendable. we are not that worried about the folks in d.c. we will avoid getting bludgeoned by republicans on this crime issue and recently the decision to weaken asylum in this country. right? the message that they send is that they're not all that concerned about action on the doors and also registering folks of color ahead of 2024. >> this is really a proxy...

Foremost, the mayor was right to override that veto of -- the mayor was right to e veto legislation coming from the city council and, of course, overrid that veto -- neil: right. >> and that that's why a republican house was so important to try to stop that. and joe biden is right for saying, yeah, why would you lower the penalties for carjacking? why would you lower the penalties for a number of violent crimes? it makes no sense. and aoc is, obviously, jumping in the fray as a progressive when she knows that her policies, the ones that she's pushed and other progressive democrats, have led to...

>> and this comes on the heels of lori lightfoot losing reelection in chicago, the loss of suburban new york congressional seats in november, people say is another indication, crime will continue to be a big issue in 2024. did somebody at the white house mess up here, and do democrats ignore crime at their own peril? >> i would disagree with the notion that anybody in this country is ignoring crime. if you go to any local city, every mayor across the country is dealing with the crime issue. i think it's not good business, it's bad politics, if you are making decisions and not notifying people ...

Leadership maybe they should disperse it and for the headquarters in kansas or break up the fbi and ferment out the different agencies, but it cannot continue because people are afraid of it. >> laura: well, i think what we are seeing is well ari is his attempt to blame shift on issues like crime. we can see it before our very eyes, things get more vicious and more depraved, i don't think just anecdotal but things are changing in this country not for the better when it comes the crime issue. kj p was asked about this today in the briefing room this is what she said. >> republicans have been do...