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Court. you could have presidential power tied up in a new way and that these presidential wartime powers, emergency powers could be tested in the court and this kind of gambit could end up hindering the power of the presidency if a federal court rules this wasn't used in the proper way. >> ron, were you surprised that the president took this time to get all of the nation's attention and then didn't really give us anything else? >> yeah, not only that as you said at the top, conflated a wide variety of sticks. i was more surprised that the democrats didn't have a strong enough -- say it one mor...

>> we don't get out of our car produces the conditions that allow -- >> it's about officers fearing that they are doing good police work and still might get in trouble for it. >> richard, you wrote about the sort of homicide increase you've seen in st. louis sort of going at the idea it's a result of the aftermath of ferguson protests. what do you make of this correlation? >> well, it's just that. it's a correlation but it's also a correlation based largely on anecdote and you know, very, very impressionistic evidence. my concern here and i agree completely with peter is that the conversation ...

That has an impact on crime. >> we don't get out of our car produces the conditions that allow -- >> it's about officers fearing that they are doing good police work and still might get in trouble for it. >> richard, you wrote about the sort of homicide increase you've seen in st. louis sort of going at the idea it's a result of the aftermath of ferguson protests. what do you make of this correlation? >> well, it's just that. it's a correlation but it's also a correlation based largely on anecdote and you know, very, very impressionistic evidence. my concern here and i agree completely with pe...

Sensible conversation. the uniform crime reports, the nation's official crime sticks from the police that come out of the fbi, they're released so late in the game. ten months after the collection year, 22 months after the first month of the collection year. that they're worthless for dealing with emerging crime problems such as this one. and so we don't even know how extensive crime increases are in the united states. >> or if they're increasing. > what's that? >> or if it's increasing. part of what i have observed is that from the very first moment there has been a rush in some senses it see...