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Years. it involved a lot of things. he wrote him letters. aside from this, one this was from nixon to trump. trump wrote nixon letter saying you are a great man. i admire you so much. he took nixon on his playing. at least one journey to texas at the end of the 19 80s. he kept on trying to get him to buy the apartment in trump tower. essentially, they had, you, know a couple of things and common. it was a pretty cavalier attitude of the use of presidential power and abuse. i believe that gerald ford's pardoning of richard nixon was a essentially, they had, you, know a couple of things and comm...

Essentially, they had, you, know a couple of things and comment. it was a pretty cavalier attitude of the use of presidential power and abuse. i believe that gerald ford pardoning of richard nixon was a big message to donald trump that the presidency, if you are elected to, it it's a free crime zone. gerald ford said nixon had suffered enough. the country cannot withstand the ordeal of seeing a former president go to prison. my feeling is, if the board had insisted on an indictment, at least nixon would've gotten fingerprinted and was indicted, and at least want to trial i think there's a poss...

House is a free crime zone. >> indeed. joe, trump is already been indicted for his mishandling of documents, but that doesn't mean jackson's through with him on that. the york times reported this week that the federal grand jury has issued more subpoenas in recent days, indicating the probe is expanding beyond the initial charges against trump and his aide turned codefendant. how strong is this case looking to you, jill, and how concerned are you that a photo jury that includes loyal trump supporters will never agree on a virtually -- >> let me start with your latter point which is, is there g...

Of course, sitting presidents should be vulnerable to indictment, otherwise the white house is a free crime zone. >> indeed. joe, trump is already been indicted for his mishandling of documents, but that doesn't mean jackson's through with him on that. the york times reported this week that the federal grand jury has issued more subpoenas in recent days, indicating the probe is expanding beyond the initial charges against trump and his aide turned codefendant. how strong is this case looking to you, jill, and how concerned are you that a photo jury that includes loyal trump supporters will nev...

President has to be able to do this alone. not confirmed by the senate. some said, if a president pardon's, the senate has to confirm that. so the result is, presidents have made this almost into a free crime zone. richard nixon committed serious felonies, for which he almost certainly would have gone to prison. he was pardoned by gerald ford. nixon showed very little contrition. he soon said, if a president does something, that means it's not illegal. and even after that, he said that he had been railroaded, and should never have been driven out of office in the first place. >> i've to tell y...