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>> i would argue through the insertion of military force. they occupied it and physically moved it from ukrainian control. >> sir, we've heard terms like little green men and hybrid warfare. can you please explain how these relate to russia in ukraine? >> on the ukraine side what we saw was over time rather than the kind of overt kind of activity we saw, to such degree on the crimea side. what we saw was a much bigger effort on the influence and the attempts to distance russian actions from any potential blowback to the russian state, if you will. hence, the use of the little green men. surrog...

>> i would argue to the insertion of military force, they occupied it. they removed it from ukrainian control. >> sir, we have heard terms like little green men, hybrid warfare, can you please explain how these relate to russia and ukraine? >> so on the ukraine side, what we saw was over time instead of the overt activity, we saw it as such activity on the crimea side, what we saw was a much bigger efforts on the influence and the attempts to distance russian actions from any potential blowback to the russian state, if you will. hence the use of the little green men surrogates in military, unm...