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New york city. tell me what you're feeling is about how we approach that now under the current administratio administration, and what, if anything needs to change gimmick >> the thing that needs to change, the one dynamic that needs to change his political correctness. stop the political correctness. the reality is you are not racial profiling when you are looking for terrorists. your criminal profiling. that's what you're doing. you are looking for certain people that do certain things that associate with certain people, that live in certain areas, that attend certain mosques. if you have a b...

Kat. this gets into a delicate balance between public safety and civil liberties because some people can say that what you are describing sounds like profiling. as an attorney, criminal profiling is an effective tool. but racial is a whole nother thing. it's unconstitutional. new talk about targeting people on the basis of religion, how do you feel about that? >> kat: i don't feel great about it. we need to think about, before we make policy changes from an emotional place. this is a very emotional issue. when you look at a lot of the things people try to do in practice to stop terrorism, look...

Have-nots having put themselves there. that's a story that we not only see from the right wing but we oftentimes see coming out of popular culture as well. >> that is that otherizing. we were talking about violence. this newfound interest in black on black crime. o'reilly loves to play the violence card. let's take listen. >> the problem in the violence in this country isn't generated by whites. it is generated primarily by blacks. the culture that we have in this country does lead to criminal profiling. because young black american men are so often involve in crime. when presented with damnin...

The judicial system is biased but i believe those who apply the law and interpret the law often are biased. and i think that's what you may have seen in this instance. clearly, beyond a reasonable doubt is a very high threshold to meet, especially if the only witness you have is the person who pulled the trigger. i think we have to find a better way of making sure that profiling stops in this country. we also have to find a way to keep people like mr. zimmerman from having guns. we need to make clear that not only did mr. zimmerman have his ability to stand his ground and protect himself, so d...

Much do you think it was an obstacle for the prosecution, they would say profiling, not saying racial profiling, is that something you think the prosecution would have run with more as a legal strategy? >> no. why would you do that with an all-white jury? that would make no sense. any time you start to make race an issue in a case like this, it tends to divide people for whatever reason and doesn't give the case to stand on its merits. i think they charged it correctly. george zimmerman believed trayvon was part of the element who had been burglarizing this complex and that's why he chose to f...