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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130714:16:41:00

Couldn t disprove it beyond a reasonable doubt. this wasn t even a close call. john, what about for you, and taking into account when angela corey got involved with this, was the bar set too high with the charges? i always thought the charges were much, much too high. just having seen the photos at the very outset, before she got involved, i viewed this as a potential manslaughter case if not self-defense. so that made it very difficult. so, they tried this case as a self-defense case i mean, tried it as second-degree murder case when it never had the facts to support it. even with all of that, when they got into the middle of the case and even toward the end when there was an opportunity to try to make this a manslaughter case, they didn t argue it that well. they didn t try it that well. at the end of the day, the instructions were so confusing around manslaughter i never thought the jury could work its way through it to find it. from a factual point of view it was a challengin ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130714:17:24:00

Recently a young mother who fired a warning shot into the air after she was being attacked by her husband, into the air. no one was injured. she received a sentence of 20 years. in the same state. she couldn t hold her ground. that says to me that there is a difference in the way we dispense justice between those who are african-american or poor or minority than others. that same woman had a protective order against her husband as well because of abuse suffered in the marriage in the past. absolutely. a lot of questions surrounding that. i do want we have to meet the promise of getting you on to talk about the meeting that had you with the president. so, if you ll forgive me, i want to shift gears with you because as i did mention, you are the chair of the congressional black caucus. in the past the cbc has been critical of the white house s efforts, specifically the president s efforts on african-american unemployment as it stands at 13.7%. in this meeting with the president, ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130714:17:23:00

The judicial system is biased but i believe those who apply the law and interpret the law often are biased. and i think that s what you may have seen in this instance. clearly, beyond a reasonable doubt is a very high threshold to meet, especially if the only witness you have is the person who pulled the trigger. i think we have to find a better way of making sure that profiling stops in this country. we also have to find a way to keep people like mr. zimmerman from having guns. we need to make clear that not only did mr. zimmerman have his ability to stand his ground and protect himself, so does trayvon martin. he is being followed by someone. he has a right to stand his ground as well. i think florida has serious issues as it relates to this law. i think they are not even-handed in the way they dispense justice. just in jacksonville, very ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130714:17:32:00

guys in your line of work tend to use the word fight when we re having a debate. some of the president s nominees have been quite controversial. that s what we do in the senate, we have big debates over big issues. they ve all been confirmed. we ll take a look at whoever the new secretary of homeland security is. i can t guarantee there won t be a spirited debate. reporter: there s no indication that reid could get the so-called nuclear option passed through the senate. some democrats have said that they won t support it. the white house has said they support this move by reid. it s a bit of a tricky spot for them because president obama has opposed the nuclear option in the past when he was a senator. both parties are going to meet tomorrow night to try to hash this out and prevent that so-called nuclear option from happening. thomas? kristin welker at the white house, thank you. i appreciate it. we ll talk more about the reaction to the george zimmerman verdict. coming up, i ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130714:17:26:00

Fight for the people we re representing. so, we re fighting for our people every day. that s what i was going to say. you are elected. that s right. let me ask you about this, with the supreme court striking down provision in the voting rights act, did that come up? did he offer suggestions for how to ensure that ruling doesn t set back minority voting in states? the topic did coming up. we discussed it at length. it wasn t so much the president offering suggestions. it was the black caucus offering suggestions as to what we think can be done through the justice department, what we think can done through congress, because if you understand the ruling, the supreme court basically put the ball back in the court of congress. so, we are talking about how we can make the necessary changes so that we can once again enforce sections 4 and 5 of the voting rights act. we also talked about section 2 and 3. we talked about what the justice department can do. there are many things we belie ....

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