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Believe that you can become the first latino president? >> you know i don't ever -- what i've really done and i hope the book captures is i've deliberately not tried to ever view any position i have as a springboard for another position. i think it's a recipe for self-destruction. what i do believe is that if i do a good job in the senate, if i'm a serious policymaker, if i take my time to put forward bills as opposed to bumper sticker solutions, like i've tried to do with this immigration issue, then i they six years from now i'll have a lot of opportunities to do different things. in politic...

List and haven't been vetted because we haven't heard about you. in that context what about tim pawlenty, what about rob portman who would seem to be the front-runners if you're going to pick a safe candidate who is not going to hurt. >> 2008 more than ever tells us be ready to be president on day one, and make sure there's no question you're ready to be president on day one. and that favors governors, it favors people who've been on the scene longer. you know, jonathan, i did a panel discussion with steve schmidt, who of course, ran mccain's campaign and he said we won't be the last campaign ...

Would say, yes, he, in fact, is being vetted. that's a remarkable testament to rubio's place. >> we don't know if it's true or not. >> we don't know if it's true. >> he said it. >> but why wouldn't they look at him? you'd be crazy not too. >> -- hispanic community. >> the net needs to be cast very broad. there's no question you need to be prepared because ultimately your number one choice could falter at the end. the late jack kemp was once the absolutely going to be the vp and at the end he wasn't. i think you have to look and you have to realize that this is a you a'nique position where you ...

He said, no one knows what the court will decide. but if the court strikes down all or part of the president's health care law, there will be no spiking of the ball. republicans are focused on the economy, we will not celebrate at a time when millions of our fellow americans remain out of work. well, congressman, there's no question that republicans will make this a part of the fall choice. >> well, if they strike down the entire bill then some of the things that we all agreed on should be dealt with will be first and foremost. >> pre-existing conditions? >> pre-existing conditions. >> keeping...

Closing tax loopholes, any new revenue that's come into the government, would you use any of that, to pay down the debt? >> no one is in dispute that we need more revenue. the question is how do you generate? and that's the fault -- >> my question is, would you use any of it to pay down the debt? >> i would use revenue from growth. when you talk about -- >> that wasn't my question. any closing loopholes, because you know what i'm getting at, which is this idea of the tax pledge. you consider this raising taxes if you use -- if you close the loophole, you get new revenue to the government, you ...