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Of the chair to the minority party. >> the issue here is the bill itself is toxic to the country and to these moderate members. >> it won't look like this in the end. >> they will have taken a vote. they will be held accountable for a vote that says 64,000 people lose health care in a district in new york, 34,000 in another district. let me say, the chances of it passes the senate are far lower than passing the house. it will be like cap and trade. they have taken a vote. nothing will happen. that's possible. >> americans, are they going to get into these? if you said to an american out there,...

>> it's a very difficult operation. the path dependency equation without ohio in this mix for donald trump is a very steep one. especially because there are other candidates like evan mcmullen who are starting to tear it up in the mountain west a little bit. we're going to end up in a situation where trump's going to have cross pressure from a lot of directions as we go forward. and i think he is going to be looking at these states. and he is campaigning in pennsylvania, which he almost certainly can't win. in nevada, which is a really dodgy place, it shows that he doesn't have a structure. he...

One. especially because there are other candidates like evan mcmullen who are starting to tear it up in the mountain west a little bit. we're going to end up in a situation where trump's going to have cross pressure from a lot of directions as we go forward. and i think he is going to be looking at these states. and he is campaigning in pennsylvania, which he almost certainly can't win. in nevada, which is a really dodgy place, it shows that he doesn't have a structure. he doesn't have a campaign to speak of. and there is no strategic vision in there except for whatever impulse strikes him. in...

Amendment which is very interesting saying we basically want the deal that kerry announced he had two weeks ago. if he doesn't have that deal we're not for it. that could be a really problematic amendment. >> let's not forget what senator george mitchell told us on this program a couple weeks ago. basically, this is not just about the u.s. and eastern. you need the go ahead and blessing from five other superpowers. are we going to get those countries saying yeah this deal is fine? again, congress is locked out. >> no one has the expertise in the middle east or elsewhere. at the end of the day,...

The biggest states you've had trouble with are arizona and texas, is the biggest one if i'm not mistaken where you still have these rules prohibiting direct sales, right? >> that's correct. it's just as i said, a handful of states. texas is the most prominent among them. texas is, of course, a big market. so we're interested in moving the needle there, and we're engaged in -- i'll characterize it as a debate in the legislature down there right now. the texas legislature meets for the first part of the year every two years and that debate is under way right now. >> texas loves freedom, although...