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So when you ask about the reception, that's when you have to look at it from both angles. on the cross side and watching the president as much as i've watched him over the years, i'm guessing that the white house wished they could have been in charge of crowd building. pl bill will tell you this. he enjoyed the outdoor events. when the crowds were there this is the way this was put together. for security reasons he had that reflective glass that was a little bit distracting. that was hard for the cameras. you didn't get the sense of the crowd, the most engaged that they got, he was at the pent...

Nuclear attack. that is no longer an operative concern anymore. so those are the type of things he's trying to get the pentagon to deal with. >> the optics and the crowd building. one quick question to you about dealing with merkel. one of the things they're saying on the substance of drawing down nuclear weapons, what about nsa? what was the substance of that discussion. we're hearing merkel was pretty critical. >> we're talking about german political folks here who will tell you on one end, look, her criticizing the president and the u.s. surveillance program is good politics for her. the ge...

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