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>> all right. thank you. with the latest on the democratic side of things. on the republican side of things, donald trump is taking his show on the road through the deep south. ♪ sweet home alabama >> wow. you know that song. followers and fans turning out in a football stadium in alabama runner tries to convince more voters he is for real. trump hammering on his signature issue, illegal immigration, while continuing to sting fellow republicans. john roberts has more from the campaign trail. john? >> reporter: the official crowd estimate of 30,000 comes from the mobile pair's office. if th...

Opponents of so-called gestation crates targeted new jersey governor chris christie with some heckling. he defended his veto of a new jersey bill that would have banned those devices. at one point christie fired back at a protester saying, quote, you're minor league compared to what i'm used to. senator lindsey graham is in new hampshire where he had an easier go of it. he was in newport, new hampshire, taking part in a parade down main street. well, leland, you mentioned donald trump, he came, they saw, but did donald trump conquer voters in the deep south? our own john roberts is in mobile...

But still between half a million and 700,000 which is typical for a second term inauguration. you can see, a lot different than four years ago. california -- carl cameron, a little bit different than four years ago? >>carl: surely. folks are leaving. the crowd is smaller. we do not have an official crowd estimate but we got information from the washington, dc metro system, the subway system, and they say they are 60 percent of the crowd that came here four years ago which would put it considerably larger than the estimates. 1.8 million was here four years ago and they expected 500,000 to 700,0...

1985 for ronald reagan, and walter mondale was a no-show. that was the last time that the 20th state fell on a sunday and they had to do the monday as i rememberrial, versus another day. and back in those days, it was the coldest one on record, 7 degrees. there will be differences between the obama 2009 and 2013. four years ago, the crowd estimate was nearly 2 million people. there is a big parlor game about whether the crowd estimates on the mall are ever accurate. but nearly 2 million. now they are saying between 600- to 800,000. and there are a series of other things. and the money. four ye...

Games and shut down the government instead of making a small down payment on fiscal discipline and reform, i say shut it down. >> no wonder they're so afraid of you. they're afraid of you because you're powerful. so i'm here to give you a message. stay courageous. we will stand for cutting the size of government. we won't change our principles. we're going to say no to another debt ceiling increase. we're not going there. >> joining me now, msnbc contributor dave weigel, political reporter for slate.com. dave, thanks for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> dave, you were there. ...