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You're talking to, is this as trump declares that he has a war with the media, we see it as we're doing our job to speak truth to power and to check the president on his facts. but he's from portraying it a bit differently. is that playing to his favor right now? >> well, i think it plays to his favor in some cases, right, he's picking a fight folks feel legitimate when a figure has been unfair to the president, that will help him. but this is really an important point to note that a lot of people just don't care about this crowd source stuff, krout size stuff so, i think it's ultimately viewe...

Separate hacks to the russian government? >> great to be with you, ari. as you just said, what links them is a piece of malware, which crowd strike calls x agent. and crowd strike says this was developed by a group they call fancy bear. the source code of this is not public, so only fancy bear uses this. crowd source believes that fancy bear is the russian intelligence agency, the gru. and back when they announced that the dnc had been hacked and fancy bear was one of the groups that hacked it, crowd source only had a medium level of confidence that fancy bear was the russian military agency. ...

Computers and it was used against russian enemies in ukraine and allegedly the dnc. that link is crucial. cybersecurity firm crowd source saying today the use of that similar malware shows russia behind both attacks. in the ukraine, those tools hacked an app to thwart the russian opposition. crowd source says that the russian hacking helped putin target opposition fighters. then, thousands of miles away in washington, apparently, the same tools were used to target the dnc, showing a russian hand in both plots, that's according to a new crowd strike report. another piece of evidence in the long...

I would be surprised if a photo is not soon circulated unless they really do feel thooer right at the point where they're about 0 capture him. if it goes cold i think they will likely put a photo out there like with the boston attack to sort of crowd source the investigation. >> right. >> phil, paul and i spent a lot of time tracking one of the assailants from the bataclan off into belgium and brussels, and the notion was that isis was trying to put higher ups in charge of operations, getting them to do things. does this smack of that at all? the use of the aliases. the ability to get away whe...

On against the u.s. systems, or involving the political process of the campaign. we've seen this repeatedly the hacking of opm believed to be by the chinese. the sony attack by north korea. so you know we -- >> so, tom, let me just stop you there. you're saying that the fbi would have briefed the obama white house but you don't know if they briefed the clinton campaign. >> i don't know it directly whether they did. my understanding from talking to some people was that it was. and that they did brief. and that later on, the democratic national committee did hire a company, crowd source, to do s...