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Like a catch-22. what do you think? >> not only is it a catch-22, it's also a catch 0 because the record is ample. we hear congresswoman roby saying quite powerfully that there is a dispute. but what is the dispute? we have the president's own words. i want you to do me a favor, though. we know what the favor is. he said it. he wants dirt on biden, and he wants information about crowd strike, this crazy and discredited conspiracy theory. and if he doesn't get it, he's not going to give the president of ukraine an oval office meeting or the $391 million. there is no dispute at all about it. the...

They say crowd strike, i guess you have one of your wealthier people, and there's a lot of talk about bidens son so whatever you could do about the attorney general would be great. if you could look into it, it sounds verbal to me. the stakes are very high whether this is acceptable behavior or not. the idea the senate does not convict him on the obstruction charge and basically says it is fine to ignore a congressional subpoena, full stop to order all agencies of government to essentially comply, may essentially vacating their enforceability in the future. the narrow articles makes the stakes...

And the question of whether he abused his power to solicit qu foreign interference, which was clear from the moment the white house released the notes of the president's now infamous phone call on july 25th with ukrainian president zelensky. i would like you to do us a favor, though, because our country has been through a lot. ukraine knows a lot about it. i would like you to find out what happened with this ukraine situation. they say crowdstrike. i guess you have one of your wealthy people. they say it's the server. and there's a lot of talk about bidens son so whatever you could do about th...

Democrats point to the transcript of the president's july 25th call. that infamous call with president zelensky of ukraine. remember, that transcript was releases by the white house and in that call the president said after zelensky asked for military aid, the president says, i would like you to do us a favor, though. he then goes on to immediately ask zelensky to look into a conspiracy theory about the 2016 election. crowdstrike. shorthand for that conspiracy theory. and asks zelensky to investigate the bidens with the help of attorney general bill barr. democrats lined up a number of witness...

This coordinated campaign and a whistle-blower brought it to light. yet steve castor, the lawyer for the republicans, dismisses the contents of the july 25th phone call when questioned by the lawyer for the democrats. >> was it u.s. policy on july 26th to request that ukraine investigate former vice president joe biden? >> um, you know, i -- i think you're reading a little too much into, you know, some of the eight lines. i don't think the president was requesting an investigation into -- into joe biden. he just mentions an off-hand comment. >> gop gaslighting again. an offhand comment? not ac...