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Deliver heavy equipment, planes, any other things that would be part of this deal, to the ukrainian forward forces, what does that say about russia's inability to prevent them from doing that? >> i think they've lost logistical command and control of their troops. as a former army commander, i'm appalled at seeing abandoned russian t-80 tanks and self-propelled artillery pieces just left by the side of the road with all their armaments. they're not doing very well. ukraine is a nation now in arms. by the way, i'm not quite sure i back your statement that the mig 29s are going to get there in t...

To using, and so that is what they need. some of the british tanks, for example, if they had them in the stockpiles or we were to offer them, would need completely new training for the ukrainians. so really it is about russian kit, who has got russian kit, and if we think about that in terms of nato, it is often the countries on the eastern flank and the former warsaw pact countries that have some of the kit. what are the ukrainians looking for? they've asked for tanks, you know, they are used to operating the t—64 tank, quite an old one that has been updated a little bit. and also the t—7...

To operating the t—64 tank, quite an old one that has been updated a little bit. and also the t—72, and lesser the t—80. so their tanks are potentially countries like poland, hungary, bulgaria may have. but they would be using some of those, especially the more newer variants. and then also they have looked for air defence systems and actually anti—ship systems, too, missile systems. and again, this is where the us would probably come in. we know that they have been getting a lot of stingers which are effective at low altitudes, but what the ukrainians are looking for is the next level...

Some might have written this old weapon of war off. But Moscow hasn't.

What does this mean for putin? what could be his intentions here? and how much military hardware are we looking at? we looked at a satellite image. do we know how much is already near the border? >> it certainly has a detailed view. t-80 tanks would be good foreground incursion force. putin had buildup on the border earlier this year and they pulled them out. what is his intention is very hard to gauge here. he certainly believes ukraine is historically part of russia's domain. he does president want to see nato encroaching. when you see -- when he sees the u.s. saying very clearly in public -...