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Trump, he'll either fire you or send you to the back of the line, which is why this white house is as dysfunctional as it is. >> jeremy bash, thank you very much. still ahead on "morning joe," the hallowed halls of capitol hill have been immortalized by giants of the senate like daniel webster, henry clay and now al franken, the senator from minnesota joins us. >> he's got that look. >> a book by that title. we'll be right back. new bikes aren't selling guys... what are we gonna do? how about we pump more into promotions? ♪ nah. what else? what if we hire more sales reps? ♪ nah. what els...

Who wrote about flynn actually bragging about lying on security clearances. >> it was a conversation he had amongst his peers. perhaps he was joking but he did say the only reason he got a security clearance was that he lied. this was reported back in 2010. the book was published in 2012. something spending time around mike flynn that was really impressed upon. michael because -- flynn telling michael you have to go in, shake up the system. get attention, maybe god or bad, but shake up the system. that's what he did when he published the report condemning u.s. intelligence for failures and pub...

>> well, quite a burden these da days. >> the globe is impressive. >> there's a fire in the globe behind me. >> impressive. let's get it again. all right, giant of a senate. >> it's an oil painting. >> the trump orb. >> almost as good as trump's self-portrait. >> except al is actually kind of kidding and trump is not. trying to help you out here. >> tell us about the book. >> well, i targeted writing this book to answer the question that i probably get asked the most, which is being a senator as much fun as working on "saturday night live." and the answer is, of course, no. why would it be. bu...

Joining us now former republican senator tom coburn from oklahoma. out with a new book "smashing using article 5 to restore freedom and stop runaway government." great to have you on the set with us. how are you doing? >> i'm doing great. >> fantastic. tell us about the book. there's a different article i want to ask you about at some point but go ahead. >> i left washington because i didn't see we could fix it there. our founders gave us this opportunity for state legislatures to reexert their authority to restore the constitution to its original intent. to what we've done is we have an appli...

>> and we have a trillion dollar debt. >> do you think the waste problem in washington is actually getting even worse? you were famous for the waste report where you chronicled the government would spend money on. it seems like it's spiraling out of control and we have republicans controlling both houses and the president and the president tweeting about putting more money in health care spending. >> i think the disease is failure to address the real problems of our country. our founders gave up -- if you want to figure out how to do that, go to cthe book. it will take away your depression of ...