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He advocated the d-development of the united states. watch. >> i think ultimately the rate of growth of material consumption is going to have to come down. and they're going to have to be a degree of redistribution of how much we consume in terms of energy and material resources, in order to leave room for people who are poor to become more prosperous. >> glenn: so if you want to use less energy, you could become more efficient, or you could do something that would make energy costs necessarily skyrocket. cap-and-trade. we'd use less energy and that money we save goes places like here. like ke...

He advocated the d-development of the united states. watch. >> i think ultimately the rate of growth of material consumption is going to have to come down. and they're going to have to be a degree of redistribution of how much we consume in terms of energy and material resources, in order to leave room for people who are poor to become more prosperous. >> glenn: so if you want to use less energy, you could become more efficient, or you could do something that would make energy costs necessarily skyrocket. cap-and-trade. we'd use less energy and that money we save goes places like here. like ke...