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Ship stuff through pseudo client states across caspian. we can't even monitor. and so what sanctions will do and obama doesn't have a strategy. he has one idea, that's sanctions because he doesn't know what else to do. the only thing sanction also do is make the revolutionary guards richer because the revolutionary guards control the smuggling and the smuggling routes. i'm all for anything that punishes iran. but the idea that somehow this is going to make the iranian people rise up and overthrow the revolutionary guards and ahmadinejad, this is cloud could you could you land cue cue land stuf...

Could provide to show that. >> are you comfortable with things like billboards comparing our president to hitler and people hurling racial epitaphs at congressman and calling barney frank -- there was some ugly stuff under that banner. i'm not saying it applies to everybody. shouldn't civil rights groups say hold on a second, don't do that. >> the billboard you are referring to was put up in the midwest. that group self-policed and that billboard came down. the other examples that you referred to, there has never been any evidence to show that kevin, let me ask you, i have been to tea parties,...

But what the naacp went out there and did by attacking the tea party was w. nonexistent charges of nonexistent racism, rather, they are going down this road a boy who cried wolf so that when real racism does come up, people are less inclined to take it seriously. >> monica, seriously, with all respect, that's a silly argument. i mean, this is a civil right movement that is arguing its position in a very controversial moment with a group that is becoming increasingly powerful. strength and weakness in tea party movement is decentralization. people there for many reasons. but you know that some ...

Democrats. they think obama is moving too far to the right. they are upset with obama. here had you a guy that promised change. that's what he ran on. now he hasn't delivered that change. hillary gives them that option. don't forget this also, mondayca. i saw your article a year ago. i agreed with you a year ago when i started seeing obama doing some of the stuff he is doing right now. you started seeing obama moving further to the middle and further to the middle. oddly enough, republican numbers for obama have gone up. democrat numbers have gone down. he has also got -- she has also got that...

With us a guest. no big surprise there, i guess. ellis, let me start with you. the naacp is supposed to be in the business of advancing the black community. there are so many serious problems that plague it, including black on black violence, fatherlessness, drugs, guns, education problems. why would the naacp waste its time at its national convention focusing on nonexistent racism in the tea party? >> first of all, monica, every single one of those issues you almost about a litany of the agenda of the naacp. all of those things are matters the naacp has taken up. >> why are they wasting their...