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Reach out and tell you your status as part of negotiating with you or calling you to a grand jury or interviewing you. >> before i get to john dean, quickly, when actors say what's my motivation, why? >> i've been thinking why jay sec cue lo would go on the circuit and say this is the message that i'm trying to drive. and i think really what they're trying to do is frying to say that the president isn't under investigation as far as they know. that's what they're trying to say. >> don't they drive home the message that the president is under investigation just by the -- >> it's called hanging ...

My motivation, why? >> i've been thinking why jay sec cue lo would go on the circuit and say this is the message that i'm trying to drive. and i think really what they're trying to do is frying to say that the president isn't under investigation as far as they know. that's what they're trying to say. >> don't they drive home the message that the president is under investigation just by the -- >> it's called hanging a lantern on it. >> exactly. john dean, you've been in the white house before. you've been around. when you don't want something to be out there in the ethos, you don't give it oxyg...