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To john's point, a core battle between the culture as it has existed and the culture as they want it to be. with the, as soon as i got off the plane yesterday, a gentleman an elderly gentleman at the airport comes up to me and he says, this is going to be a race. i looked over and said, yeah, it is. he said, do you know, but the culture here doesn't want to change. so it goes to, you know, he starts talking about how back when he was a young man how things were and how certain things were send and how other things kind of slipped by. that's the fight, joe, at the end of the day, that ying and ...

Saying they will demand substantial reforms this country can't deliver. >> what is their incentive to blink? if they lose europe greece is okay. if greece loses europe greek is in trouble. >> i think the sense that other countries will leave as well. there is a human element, there is despite the different cull cures, there is a sense of a united europe. this is a part of the european community having a problem. again you said yesterday, how is it that the people that made all the mistakes are trying to make demands. i think again on the balance sheet for the french and others there is no ince...