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These are our traditions. >> give me an example of a good arab country that knows how to do it. jordan, is it peaceful? is it democratic? >> no, no, and we have had. we've hads various periods. the king has changed the government, these were necessary decisions to take. we have plans that have been developed in the past for a reform process, a gradual reform process, and perhaps now they can start to implement it. >> i went through the list, jordan, yemen, different kinds of countries, the west bank, the palestinian authority. syria, a boughtist government, susan, i'm not sure what you would c...

Decisions to take. we have plans that have been developed in the past for a reform process, a gradual reform process, and perhaps now they can start to implement it. >> i went through the list, jordan, yemen, different kinds of country, west bank, palestinian authority, syria, sudan, i'm not sure what you would call that. are these countries watching this and thinking about things that will really matter and will keep their countries from going radical? >> god willing they are. god willing that will be the positive outcome, which is the status quo was unsustainable for many years. we're now se...