But just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president, if east serious, to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> not a no on the rates going. up thing. john boehner didn't answer the tax part of the question at all. he talked about the phone call. it was pleasant. he didn't say we did not allow tax rates to go up at all. you see the deal that's taking place. a lot of the players i talked to think something like this is going to happen. the final rates raise a bit giving democrats a win. giving republicans a win. maybe th...