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In that space they're trying to create a parallel internet basically that won't be affected at all by the moderation in any capacity except for the moderation of course that they want to be on there. so that's the whole mission here is to create an anti-elite internet, a separate internet where they can create and craft their own narratives without much judgment. >> yeah. by the way, i've never heard of rumble. it's the site that offered joe rogan $100 million if he would switch to their side where presumably he could say the "n" word all he wants without anybody saying anything to him about i...

Believe was legally elected on november 3rd. >> okay. with me now is glen kirshner, curt bardella. let me circle back to the national archives information, glen. you and i have talked about this before. it seems likely that the thing that will most likely result in accountability, legal accountability for trump will be something other than the insurrection which is kind of hard to wrap your mind around when you think about how unprecedented it is to try to overturn an election. but it seems to be other things that present him with more immediate legal jeopardy whether it's the tax evasion, mes...

And fair election. that's precisely what trump and his co-conspirators did in a domestic setting not based on a foreign attack. so the whole removal and concealment of records, you know, in isolation it might not give rise to a criminal charge but it may end up being an overact in furtherance of a larger conspiracy. >> you know, curt, what stood out to me in the reading of this report, this journalistic report is that the department of justice has been very reluctant to even hint that they even might be investigating donald trump for anything related to the insurrection and yet even though the...

The people who would benefit the most are these farmers. it was tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires. the people they try to hold up and prop up, they don't stand a chance in their world view. that's the ultimate con. >> i say watch what they've done -- rachel maddow says watch what they do, not what they say. what did donald trump accomplish? it wasn't building the wall. it was the tax break for the rich. it's all about the money. always follow the money. ben and curt, thank you both very much. curt said it was about the different parties. not always because stick around. we're going ...

Same from republicans. that they will continue to latch onto the big lie, that they will need to contest the election that there were voter irregularities, and continue to downplay what happened on january 6th to try to whitewash the riot that day in order to move forward with their eyes on the midterms next fall. >> given kevin mccarthy's recent trip to visit president trump, i find his answer to reporters that he didn't talk to trump about this to be questionable at the very least. curt bardella, another one of the folks on the committee is troy nehls. why does he stand out to you? he's from...