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close to the us border. the decision came after footage emerged that appeared to show detention centre officials doing nothing to evacuate migrants during the fire. now on bbc news, it's hardtalk with sarah montague. welcome to hardtalk. i'm sarah montague. close to 50 million people around the world are close to famine, a number that is rising because of war and the effects of climate change. it's the job of the world food program to feed them. my guest today, david beasley, has been running the organisation for the past six years and, in that time, has more than doubled the money i...

he's about to move on. so, what did his time at the top of the world's largest aid agency teach him about one of the greatest problems mankind faces — how to ensure no one dies of hunger? david beasley, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, sarah. now, you have said that when you took on the job six years ago, you thought you could put the world food program out of business because you could solve world hunger. at that time, there were 80 million who you described as marching towards starvation. and yet, the figure now, who you would classify in that way, is 350 million. was it ever solv...

And whatever classification system you use, where, for example, at the moment, you're cutting rations to the rohingya refugees in bangladesh because you're short of money and their monthly allowance is going down to $10 per person, cut byjust under a fifth. when you've already got children in those camps who are stunted and underweight, ijust wonder, and i take your point that it's how much you can raise from donor countries, to some extent, they do, but that's also based on the decisions that you make they do — but that's also based on the decisions that you make as to who lives and... effe...