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Gangs coming over. that's not most people. we do know from the dhs statistics that a number of women are saying they are being assaulted. >> let's go ahead and bring in our panel. joe, let's start with you. it's been 18 days since the president and pelosi last spoke. the white house has not reached out to pelosi's staff. and that was really to schedule a get together. have you heard anything differently? have they really not spoken in the middle of a federal shutdown? >> well, it certainly appears that the president is content to let this go on as long as possible. in fact, there is a "politic...

First of all they would create an escrow account that greece could put in, like with a mortgage where you put taxes and insurance payments so everybody gets their money. there's conversation about having lenders representatives move to thence to monitor what's going on and cutting the price of greece's existing debt, lowering the interest rate. >> shepard: they've lowered the number of jobs, cut pay. i read one in four greek businesses has shut its doors. there's a long way to go. >> there is and there are questions about whether this bailout will do the trick. it could be the debt even after ...

Whole congress, now buying up the governors to make sure they never have to pay taxes again. then we have these huge budget deficits because they don't pay taxes any more. and what do they want to do? cut benefits for the poor, cut education, stipends, cut pay of teachers. it is unbelievable the game going on in this country. a little of it was exposed today, but this is absolutely vile, given what happens. we have workers down, and they are doing everything they can to put in that final twist. >> why would the kochs care about a little union question in a state like wisconsin? >> well, they h...

Look at them and say why do we need this? >> the reason they need it is the wages have been going down, while the income at the top has been soaring. what these billionaires have been doing is buying up the whole congress, now buying up the governors to make sure they never have to pay taxes again. then we have these huge budget deficits because they don't pay taxes any more. and what do they want to do? cut benefits for the poor, cut education, stipends, cut pay of teachers. it is unbelievable the game going on in this country. a little of it was exposed today, but this is absolutely vile, gi...

Then we have these huge budget deficits because they don't pay taxes any more. and what do they want to do? cut benefits for the poor, cut education, stipends, cut pay of teachers. it is unbelievable the game going on in this country. a little of it was exposed today, but this is absolutely vile, given what happens. we have workers down, and they are doing everything they can to put in that final twist. >> why would the kochs care about a little union question in a state like wisconsin? >> well, they have business in wisconsin. they have polluting industries all over this country. they have bo...