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I did a good job as environment minister. i think that on the world stage, the uk on my watch became the world leader on the environment, on climate. that's been recognised by countries all around the world, as we saw when i stepped down. my loyalty, i'm a friend, of course, of borisjohnson in the political context. he's not someone i knew before i entered politics. hang on, you're a friend in every context — you lent him your home in marbella! hang on a second. my loyalty, as anyone i've worked with since i was 18 and became a committed environmentalist, will know, anyone in good faith will...

Not at all. i think he did have confidence in me doing thisjob, i did a good job as environment minister. i think that on the world stage, the uk on my watch became the world leader on the environment, on climate. that's been recognised by countries all around the world, as we saw when i stepped down. my loyalty, i'm a friend, of course, of borisjohnson in the political context. he's not someone i knew before i entered politics. hang on, you're a friend in every context — you lent him your home in marbella! hang on a second. my loyalty, as anyone i've worked with since i was 18 and became a ...

Point, stephen — in every single survey that has ever been conducted, and i've commissioned a few myself, i've read many, every single one demonstrates beyond any doubt that the majority of voters, from whichever party they belong to, support greater action on biodiversity, nature on the environment. you're not reading the tea leaves. the conservative home website just did a series of polls just in the last week or two. a0%, they found — of tories, this is — oppose the net—zero target. 33% think global warming is not driven by human activity. but these aren't ordinary people, this is a...

You know that the house of commons works on rules, those rules have to be accepted by everybody. 0k. there is a privileges committee, it is bipartisan, and they reach their conclusions which, in the end, overwhelmingly were accepted by the house of commons. that's the system. but mps are fallible people and they're ordinary human beings. perhaps in some respects, mps are a particular species, i don't know. you cannot expect a fair hearing when almost all of the members of a committee have already told the world what they think the outcome should be before. interesting. you called it a kangaroo...

"uninterested, fundamentally uninterested in the environmental challenges that face the uk nation, but the world as a whole." you say, "i've been horrified..." this was your resignation letter, "..i've been horrified as bit by bit, we have abandoned key commitments. our efforts on a wide range of domestic and environmental issues have simply ground to a standstill." and this, tragically, is the case. look, every minister who cares about their brief is always faced with the tension, when things start going the way they don't want them to go — do they stay in there, do they continue to push, o...