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Mace. there's a debate whether it would be 12 or 15 weeks and whether social services need to be bolstered, a lot of house republicans in the returning age of cutting spending would be opposed to but something you hear activists talking about, maybe that's the direction if we're going to get rid of abortion we need to broaden the social safety net. the debate in congress would be fascinating and likely one that leadership would want to avoid. >> we'll watch the states in 2023 and watch to see what the republicans in congress especially in the house determine to do. big question, how does this ...

Car and xbox. >> we have said again and again we want to do that in a bipartisan way. >> and again and again would you keep doing that or change the behavior. >> used to say congress money drunken sailor. i received an email from a guy and it said as a former drunken sailor i resent being compared to members of congress. >> mike: stop me if you have heard this before it's almost time to raise the debt ceiling. the nation's debt is at $31 trillion and counting. every moment of every day and some are suggesting it's time to stop the insanity and maybe make some spending cuts. bring this our pane...

Scenario, but one thing i want mention, there are a lot of things that are concerning to say the least, but there are some positives that are worth mentioning. the end of proxy voting. i'm hope fell, maybe i'm being a super optimist, but it will allow members come back to washington, d.c. and build relationships. it's a lot easier to look on as you call and point to someone and say i won't work with that person or i disagree with them than it to to sit in a committee room and get to know them as a human and not an enemy. >> that's a good point. i mentioned defense spending. there have been a l...

Counting on house republicans to be the one savior. if we can't get it right, it will be nightmare after nightmare. >> the idea of that motion to vacate the chair being a threshold of one vote is in the rules package. i talked to scott perry, one of the architects of that deal late friday, who said he doesn't think republicans will misuse it. he can't to speak to how democrats will use it. mr. gonzalez's concerns about cutting military spending is not in the rules package per se, in fact, chip roy, another of those architects, says he thinks that the republicans can achieve their goals of cutt...

Issues are going to be dealt with both in the conference and throughout our country in this new era? >> yeah, jake makes a good point about moderates wanting to stand up for themselves and rarely doing so. i think you're going to see this congress start off with aggressive action. one of the things i'm concerned about is not necessarily what's in this rules package, i am concerned about that. it's some of the promises that kevin mccarthy had to make that go beyond what's in the rules. things that have to do with cutting spending, the debt limit, these are things that he's not just necessarily ...