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We have pretty open process about the pressure. this isn't surprising news. it's a big step but he didn't mean for sure anything until we go through the process because the new york process is so different for the federal process in terms of grabbing evidence and flipping people and moving within the system. it's very different. >> flipping people that we know that eric trump has been interviewed, tim. >> under oath. >> under oath. yeah. we know that mr. weisselberg has been interviewed. you talked about the importance of him. if people were going to flip, it seems like those are the kind of p...

So they're using the idiom incorrectly every time they do it. in terms of what has happened in this case, this is two years ago. and there are allegations in this case of a cover-up because somebody had to see that body camera footage and put it on the shelf. so in terms of the state of this investigation, there's also news that there's a federal investigation. what do you hope the outcome of all of these pieces are? >> someone needs to go back with a fine-toothed comb and identify the conduct of each officer, not only consider it for administrative consequences, but understand these men are a...

Anti-democratic cult, anti-truth cult, around the president, the former president. and that -- as long as that's the case this country's going to really struggle. >> yeah, i think there's a lot of truth to what you just said, and i think about the fact that we definitely need at least two functioning political parties. congressman adam schiff, thank you so much for being here tonight. please stay safe. >> you too, thank you. tonight, the big lie continues. spreading from arizona, now to georgia, where a judge just gave the green light to yet another recount in fulton county. how can election...

Editor and a columnist at bloomberg opinion, also the author of "trump nation: the art of being the donald." he joins me now. thank you for being here tonight, tim. >> hi, zerlina. >> so what may allen weisselberg have done wrong here? what are the kinds of things he's being accused of in this particular case? >> well, you know, this is a very straightforward case. they're saying that the trump organization or the trump family diverted portions of the inauguration funds into their hotel, into their hotels in washington, for their own uses. and the interesting thing about weisselberg's name com...

It's significant that allen weisselberg's name is here because it's yet another thing he has his fingers on. but remember this d.c. investigation is a civil case. it is not close to the kinds of charges or potential penalties that exist up in new york now. so it's significant. it's another example of how deeply entwined allen weisselberg is in the trump organization, in the trump family's business affairs and political affairs now, in this example. so he's obviously -- we've known already that he's essentially the crypt keeper, he knows where every financial body is buried in the trump empire....