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The president at the working level. but for instance dan coats said last friday that the warning level on cyber, and cyber from russia more aggressively than any other foreign actor, was blinking red. to the extent that the threat level from terror was blinking red before 9/11, john mclaughlin, you lived through that. jeremy, so did you, in and out of government. and the fact is, certainly the aftermath of it, the fact is, if there is nobody in the white house anybody in charge of cyber, because they fired the cyber coordinator and did not replace him, there is no interagency motivation propel...

Strategically we have to look forward. tom clancy's sum of all fears, when a terrorist group obtains a weapon of mass destruction. the weapon of mass destruction had been one of those airliners that hit the twin towers. we wouldn't be talking about 3,000 victims. we'd be talking about 300,000 victims or more. and so these are the things we have to think about. we can't rest on our laurels that, yes, we collect a lot of information. we know what's going on. there are people out there playing this game of chess with us in ways that are -- want to take us down. and we have to be better than they,...

>> they're overtly insidious. they're not effective unless you feel them. the russians had an act it program for some time to infiltrate and embed themselves in various aspects of our infrastructure. and to reens enforce an earlier point about the turnover with tom bossert and rob joigs, who was a cyber coordinator, who is really a competent professionals, both of them are having departed. well, once again, we're in a bad space i think to how we react to these russians -- >> he wasn't until a few days ago a homeland security adviser at the white house. let me get your reaction to the james com...

And aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are you? aleve, proven better on pain. and developing now on "the rundown" president obama is expected to address that massive hack attack on sony in a few hours during a white house news conference. a senior u.s. official told nbc news that the u.s. has concluded that north korea is responsible but so far administration officials have not publicly blamed that country. right now the administration is considering how to respond. >> it is also been the subject of a number of daily meet...

It is also the subject of a number of daily meetings convened here at the white house that have been led by both the president's homeland security adviser and occasionally by his cyber coordinator, that includes senior members of our intelligence community and security officials, of military, diplomatic and law enforcement officials as well. >> what is the united states going to do about it? >> before we start to publicly speculating about a response, it's appropriate that we allow the investigation to move forward. i do understand that the investigation is progressing, and that as the members...