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The united states, ukraine, russia, georgia and syria. all this as the fbi did not tell u.s. officials that russian hackers were trying to hack their personal gmail accounts despite having evidence or at least a year that the targets in the kremlin's cross hairs. let's bring the in the author of "the despot's apprentice, donald trump's attack on democracy." brian, what do you make of the fbi knowing that these entities in russia were targeting, were trying to hack, personal e-mail accounts of those that were relevant to the u.s. government and why wouldn't they necessarily let them know? >> we...

Good. whether you're talking about just perception or talking about operational realities, from a cyber security point of view, the russians are the number one perpetrator of cyber shenanigans, of economic espionage, of cyber activity not in our interest. china being the number one state-sponsored. but, you know, there's -- there's what happens in the public theater, which is what we're talking about now and we're talking about the chaos and the perception of the white house, and there's what happens off the radar screen. that just keeps going. no matter, frankly, who's in the administration. ...

Letting the reporters get under his skin. and also having the homeland, deputy homeland security adviser come out and speak before sean, talking about the serious nature of these global cyber attacks really helps to keep the message where it needs to be, which is in this case where the president has been focusing on dealing with these cyber security attacks and figuring out what we can do to ensure it doesn't happen in our country. i think it went a lot smoother for sean spicer and obviously i believe you're going to see something with his communications team where they know that their perform...

Communi community. a lot of it is secure. >> as it should be. >> as it should be. you're right. the president-elect is showing how vulnerable we've been from cyber security attacks for years. also showing our standing in the international community has fallen. we've got to take direct action to not only secure our borders, but to secure cyber security and again be the leader that the rest of the world is seeing us to be. >> i'm just saying, when they come to him and meet with him, and as you know, it's on the president-elect to meet with the intel communities. he suggested they're delaying the...