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Alone and reminiscent of similar troubles that north korea was having with some of its rocket test as few years ago. some suspected at the time u.s. interference. experts suspect the iranians were trying to test a two-stage liquid fuel rocket. the rocket is used to launch satellites, which use the same technology as ballistic missiles, some of which are banned by current u.n. sanctions. >> what have you lerntd -- learned about the u.s. cyber attack first reported by "the new york times"? >> there's opinion about whether the alleged use of this cyber weapon was worth it. some say that now the u...

Put these cyber weapon into the grid and why provoke russia? >> there is a military interests in holding certain targets at risk. russia has been extremely aggressive and for years dating back to 2012. one of the difference is again if the reporting is accurate we would be targeting what is civilian infrastructure. you have military targets but you also have civilian infrastructure. russia energy infrastructure, their power grid is massive. we are talking about half a million substations and 500 different power generation facilities and 20 different independent power company. to affect that at...

You know, i think if there's something in that realm to be done, i think it needs to be some kind of federal initiative. i brought this with me on purpose. this is a potential cyber weapon. it can be hacked into. it can be marshalled as a bot net, and used to do cyber attacks. every child ten years and older has one of those. none of those kids have any training in cyber security and basic cyber hygiene. that's a big problem. we are so naive, using technology we're not aware how it can be abused, misused. as a country, we're not well prepared. i think our intelligence services are. >> let me a...

Market of getting them back, but they wanted to know what was out there missing out there in the wild and what to worry about because they didn't know exactly what had gotten out, so they find this russian who says, i can give you everything, and they said, great we can unravel the mystery, but the russian says, but we have to include this material on president trump and i want to throw it in there and the americans did want that. they made it clear to the russian, that we want the cyberer weapons and don't sell us the other stuff. >> tell us more. tell us more, because i want to unpack this f...

There or at least put pressure on the regime. the tough talk and the sort of mysterious alugsz to possible invasion are the last thing that's going to advance that. >> all right. thanks for being part of the conversation this morning. >> thank you. >> thanks. hughesing fire and fury to respond to the north korean threat, well, that's the verbiage president trump is using. but next another possibility. how effect active could a cyber weapon be? plus, char lotsville, virginia, bracing for a white nationalist rally today. activists gathering there in protest of removal much a confederate stat...