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What's going on here? can karl rove speak anymore or in the republican party, must you obey the tea party now? >> well, let's try to break down what his objection and some other -- a lot of other prominent republicans were worried about if she became the nominee. they're not saying her views are too extreme. karl made clear in that first interview. he thinks that her views are fine. they're worried about two things. they're worried about the personal baggage she has and what they believe the character problem will make her unelectable. they don't want as a matter of real polit eke too lose the...

They don't want as a matter of real polit eke too lose the seat, the problem is a more cultural one. there are people in the tea party whose attitude is if someone is against the establishment, we're for them. if anybody criticizes them, they're criticizing the heart and soul of the movement. that is a cultural and kind of psychological problem that i think karl misplayed and it will be a challenge for the republican party. i don't think between now and the midterms but certainly beyond in governing and then looking towards the president. >> what is the cultural problem of karl rove? let's kin...