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Compromise? >> they could come up with a compromise themselves and it's what the president will accept. we've seen before when he feels he's in retreat or handed a big defeat he lashes out. i think there are a lot of people looking to whether or not he will, the end of this deadline, decide forget it, we will fund a national emergency to get the border wall and fund the government just to get a win. i don't think anybody really knows. >> aren't we again in this spin cycle, where the president kind of walks away from the wall, doesn't get the wall funding he wanted. hears from conservatives he'...

In wisconsin he's second behind scott walker. let's say he stays on the debate stage. when does this cycle end? >> i think one of the things that hasn't happened yet is the primary contenders the people who are running seriously as -- for president, have not started going after him and treating him as a serious rival if we fast forward five months and trump is still there and sucking up all the oxygen you'll start to see jeb bush's super pac karm et bomb places like iowa and new hampshire with ads saying look at all these liberal positions donald trump is talking about. >> they'll trot out sta...