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Like this amazon welder woman or something. >> we felt lost in the theater of it. it got to the point where the videos were more important than the songs. >> it did feel like, i can't steer the ship anymore. where is it going, you know? where are we headed? >> i think heavy metal is the true rock 'n' roll of the '80s. rock 'n' roll is basically music made by people who were thinking with their crotches. ♪ ♪ [ bleep ] like a beast >> heavy metal is not something new in physics, it is rock and roll. loud, rude, it glorifies sex and violence, it hates authority, and adolescent boys love it. >...

>> when he does that moonwalk, if you were sitting on the couch by the end of it, you were on the floor in front of the tv. you couldn't believe what you were seeing. >> i would say the moonwalk was really one of the first viral moments that affected rock history. the next week "thriller" started selling a million copies a week. >> i like michael jackson because he can sing good, he's bad, he knows how to dance. >> he's so sexy and so gorgeous. >> he's exciting! >> michael jackson is the man of the '80s. >> mtv starts to get pressure from cbs records, which was michael jackson's label. >> rock...

Of the beatles and the rolling stones where british bands seem to be better at it than americans. >> the police have sold 4 million albums in one year. "rolling stone" chose them as best new band of the year. taking note of the swirling, dreamy, soaring quality of the sound. ♪ giant steps are what you take ♪ ♪ walking on the moon >> it was incredible to see them. and i couldn't believe what i was hearing out of three people. i was shocked. >> i once read that you were called the pink floyd of the '80s. what do you think of that? >> we're not at all. we're the cure of the '80s. ♪ and i ...

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♪ and tremble like a flower >> artists in the '80s, david bowie for that matter, realized if you want to make it, you've got to be on mtv. >> but there's one group that's not happy with mtv. many black artists who have been told their music doesn't fit the format. >> that's what's happening. we're being sat in the back of the bus television-style. and if pittman gets away with this and there are other cable shows that form, they're going to try it. >> mtv doesn't exclude black acts. what mtv does exclude is music that's not rock 'n' roll. >> mtv came out with no consideration on how to infus...