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So when you need toxic waste removed, you call mr. giuliani. that's way back years ago that that relationship existed. and i wonder what mr. pecker has to say and knows about rudy giuliani. >> just when you don't think this could get any more interesting. frank figluizzi says the da darndest things. joyce, we have mr. pecker and mr. weissenberg. it sound like the tag line that follows, have you been in an accident? weissenberg is the long-time family accountant of the trumps. he was fred trump's accountant. he goes back to 1974 with this family company. he is said to have been donald trump's t...

But it's actually true, actually. big business has been healthy hiring in recent years and their profits have been near record levels. now, he sort of said, and you need lower taxes and small businesses need lower taxes and smaller regulations. but every time i look at the evidence on the small businesses like the surveys done by the nfib, they say the problem is sales. and that suggests that we need to boost demand, get more money in the pockets of people who would spend it. it seems like an economic case at odds with mitt romney's economic platform. >> right. well, you're right. continues to...