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And government hard pressed to compete at the speed of the guttenberg bible. >> you point out isis has some vulnerables. >> as i said a winners messaging and the fact it's been losing ground significantly in iraq since august. it hasn't gained and held new ground. recently it has some offensives in anbar but hasn't been able to hold new ground since october. it's lost tikrit of course. and increasingly there's pressure on mosul which is the defactor capital of its holdings in iraq. the way they've tried to disguise this is moving into africa they picked up a couple more major affiliates. we ne...

The u.s. a senate homeland security panel was debating how to combat isis online. and daveed testified before that committee. he's a senior fellow for the foundation of defense of democracies. da daveed, give us a taste of what you said in your testimony before congress. >> i talked about a few things. the primary thing the united states has been losing to isis for a long time for one particular reason isis is very nimble. it's able to push its message to media and push its message directly to its followers. it's a winners message. so often the u.s.'s message and isis's have been identical. th...