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>> finally ukraine is claiming further victories. what is your opinion of how they're progressing. >> we're seeing ukraine make progress. we're now seeing more on the south. it's clear that ukrainians have an offensive position. what we don't know is just how well the russians can defend the second line of defenses. and whether they are tháebg do it as well as they have the first. they might well have spent a large proportion already and are under a lotover. so the coming days will be very interesting. >> retired general thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> u.s. defense secretary lloyd ...
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