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Are affected that his background and his experience doesn't fit the requirements of the job. i'm going to look very seriously at that issue. >> all right. senator kirsten gillibrand, always good to have you on the show. thank you very much. kasie hunt stay with us if you can. chuck todd what's coming up on "meet the press" this weekend >> we're going to do a lot on eric garner. i'll have the new york city d.a. on the show and then do a little on immigration, greg abbott who filed the lawsuit new governor or incoming governor of texas on immigration. >> thank you very much, chuck. we'll see you...

Grand jury. >> let's talk about this grand jury. we can debate what happened in ferguson. let's talk about this case. >> he didn't die from obesity. >> it's important for viewers to know we're not talking about finding the officer guilty we're talking probable cause. it's the lowest standard. everybody always jokes you can indict a grapefruit. you can. what d.a. in america look at that videotape and not immediately go you know what? >> there's another question in both cases and that is whether the d.a. deviated from standard procedure by not recommending a charge to the grand jury. >> this is ...

There's great teachers and bad teachers. okay this is for the cops. there's great cops and there's some bad cops. look at that video, this was not a model cop. >> first of all, here's the other thing you need to understand. that police response that's why d. a.'sshould not prosecute police officers. when they run for office they try to get their endorsements. mayors are afraid of police unions. not all mayors but they have lobbyists and money and know when the police union comes out against you when you're running for office the public goes oh, oh, what's going on. >> the history these federal...

Happens in the vast p preponderance of cases they do. it's hard to understand why the district attorney wouldn't go in there we have an indictable offense. >> police officers would be angry. >> staten island is a community -- >> also what d.a. doesn't end up and we can say as well -- the . d.a. in ferguson, would doesn't say at the end i want an indictment. >> a lot of times if they are not poised to ask for an indictment they don't present evidence. >> no doubt about it.

Forward. >> you look at what's going -- i think the grand jury process and again al sharpton talked about this yesterday morning, that's the first thing you have to look at and specifically when it involves cops. i'm not saying it's rigged, i'm not saying it's fixed, you can talk about the politics of it. but also if i'm a d. a.i'm not going to piss off cops because i depend on cops to come in and testify for me. >> it's an incestuous relationship. >> it has to be a close relationship. let me tell you something. new york city is safer today than it's been in ages so there's a lot of great law ...