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Be rattle something nerves here. there are some people saying we docht like you mixing that plan together. to that, you say? >> well, yeah, that's exactly correct. ial agree with everything ben said. but here's the deal, daca is a major concession. it's a chip that we as republicans hold on immigration. >> wouldn't the law be a major concession as well? >> that's exactly right, the wall would be a concession by the democrats. why would the president -- i don't think this is a good deal by him right now why would the plead creede and say i want to extend the deal on daca, i want to make sure th...

Base. >> it's legalization, yes. >> i'm sorry? >> it's legalization, we're going to allow them to stay here. once again, just like ben, i'm not opposed to daca, but what i'm opposed to is doing daca without security, without the wall. >> but the president has said he won't do daca without doing the wall. >> well, that's new. certainly, when pelosi and schumer left that dinner, they immediately statement with a statement and they said that passing daca, to them, what the president told them, was not tied to the wall. and to go broader, here's the problem for me, as a republican and as a conserv...

I'm not in favor of daca, steve, without there being a secure border at the same time because otherwise this will never end and we'll be doing daca 2.0 and 3.0 and 4.0, but you can't tell me that you honestly -- i don't think you believe in your hearth that a 6-month old child who is now 18, the average age of someone enrolled in daca was 6 1/2 years old, steve, where are you going to send them back to? venezuela, south africa, mexico? are you going to send them back? >> this is a false argument. >> it's not a false argument. >> we're going to leave it. where's the compassion for the parents w...

Tuesday marks the start of the democratic national convention. democrats will have to do a good job of selling the affordable care act. as well as aca 2.0. by that i mean they need to convey why the current plan is good for all americans, and what more needs to be done. health care reform isn't finished, not by a long shot. back to the panel. let's look at this image. when i saw these numbers, it made kind of -- two aspects of distribution that matter. one is what medical students, once they become doctors, choose to do. look at these numbers, and you see in general practice, you only end up w...