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Doesn't -- >> the fringe right is making the case against the democrats who have had moderation die off. but really, you're saying in the numbers, it's actually the gop where the mainstream conservative thought is gone? >> i would argue with both but certainly in the gop. there's really not that many moderate voices anymore. just nine on those who signed that daca petition are still in the congress. there are no moderate republicans anymore. and you talk about the senate, susan collins is the only moderate republican left. if you look at her statement, it wasn't strong coming against the presi...

Were 23 gop reps who signed a petition to force a house vote on daca. it was overwhelmingly popular. only nine of those are still in the house. in that nine, three of those, accept for susan brooks, they were part of that group that voted to force that house vote on daca. and brooks is retiring so she doesn't -- >> the fringe right is making the case against the democrats who have had moderation die off. but really, you're saying in the numbers, it's actually the gop where the mainstream conservative thought is gone? >> i would argue with both but certainly in the gop. there's really not that ...