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It's been too long. >> jose, a deal, as you know, on daca has been tied to a government spending bill. what will the reaction likely be from the immigrant community? what would your reaction be personally? >> i think an acknowledgement such a deal would be a betrayal of immigrants, of the grassroots community who democrats will need to come out in the next election cycle. democrats need to be with d.r.e.a.m.ers and activists on this deal because voting for government funding without arranging a daca deal would essentially mean that democrats are giving this administration enough money for 50,0...

Has said that. we want to find a permanent solution to the daca population, not a continual three-year renewal period. chris: all right, in the short period of time we have left, i want to ask you about some of the issues that are fazing your department. border apprehensions are down 40% in 2017 which some administration officials have called the trump effect, but in december there was a significant increase out of the border caught more than 40,000 people attempting illegal crossings, why has it gone back up? >> it's a great question and i appreciate you asking because i think it's very impor...

Yesterday. 55 minutes of free wheeling, frank talk, on camera, as lawmakers from both sides try to solve this dilemma over immigration, over d.r.e.a.m.ers. they are the 700,000 undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s. as kids. a judge has made this hugely impact full ruling on their fate. wheat get flew that. but first let me play something you this is the president stressing any legislation on d.r.e.a.m.ers also known as daca must be tied to his border wall. >> we agreed to pursue four major areas yesterday of reform. securing our border, including, of course, the wall, which has always be...

Witnessed. and they were great for about two hours. they were phenomenal. and then they went a little bit south on us but not that bad. it was fun. they probably wish they didn't send us those letter of congratulations but it was good. i'm sure their ratings were fantastic. they always are. which is why i think the media will ultimately support trump in the end because they're going to say if trump doesn't win in three years, they're all out of business. you guys will be out of business but the boom holders are still going to be there. so that's good. those are the people i like. we agreed to ...

Immigration, the president today calling his meeting with lawmakers from both parties tremendous. >> president trump: we agreed to pursue four major areas of reform. securing our border including of course the wall, which has always been included, never changed. ending chain migration, cancelling the visa lottery, i a dressing the status of the daca population. >> shepard: the dockca population, the dreamers. the president announced he'll sign a bill to extend that program, the one that protects them. he's open to handling immigration in two phases he says. daca and? sort of border security me...