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>> senator, i have to ask you a very simple question, i work in television journalism, so sometimes i ask the simple questions. how would it be the democrats' fault when the republicans are in control of all the political branches of government if the government shuts down. >> exactly. but they think that they can pull the wool over the eyes of the american people and i would say that the american public is not buying it and that's why they're just so nervous and they're very frightened about what might be in store for them. >> and last question, i know we're tight on time. what did you learn ...

She thinks about studying abroad if deportation ever happened. do you ever run through your options in your head, what you might do? >> yeah. i'm pretty set on staying here. whatever happens happens. >> these next couple days could be crucial to whether or not there's a fix to daca. >> yeah. >> do you feel like you're in limbo a little bit? >> we were never secure. we knew daca was a temporary aid. however, i think we were hopeful that wasn't going be the case. >> so do you feel like the clock is ticking? >> it does feel like that. i read the overseas daca is taking applications again. >> are ...

So i think ultimately the republican there's get blamed for it. i don't think it is as devastating as it was in the newt gingrich days. they're in control of everything now. >> 2013. the ted cruz shutdown. >> your point is an example, that so much of what people remember is through the lens of the last fight and none of those fights worked out well for republicans. what makes this different particularly when you're in charge. i love to blame the democrats when the democrats are wrong. as a strategist, you have to be very cognizant of the challenges you face when you're heading into a fight lik...

Can house republicans in the meantime round up enough votes to keep the federal government from shutting down? the house speaker paul ryan was asked that question earlier today. wouldn't say if they have the votes necessary, but he blamed democrats for the threat of a shutdown. >> we've been very clear, we want to see a daca. but a daca solution has got to be a balanced solution. it has to be a solution that also not just treats the symptom, which daca is, but the root cause of the problem in the first place. look, i feel that it makes no sense for democrats to try and bring us to a shutdown, ...

Republican votes to keep this government open and running, that of course will be in part up to mark meadows, but the bigger, longer term question is daca, and the president has said repeatedly that he wants a solution on daca, but he won't put anything on the floor that the president doesn't support or won't sign. take a look at what he had to say. >> we want to see a daca solution, but a daca has got to be a balanced solution, a daca solution has to be a solution which not just treats the symptom which daca is, but which treats the problem in the first place, which makes no sense for democra...