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He liked to joke. he liked to laugh. he had a beautiful smile. and actually, he was a mama's boy and a daddy's boy. when he was little, when he was young, he was an infant. and he slept with you, i would always tell his aunts, amir has to hold your finger when he goes to sleep. because that is how he would cuddle up with me, and he would always hold my finger when he was a baby. >> yeah. >> and i would always know, he would reach out for one of your fingers at night to go to bed. and amir was my baby. and -- >> well -- >> he loved us, he loved me, he loved his father, brothers, sister. >> yes.

>> amir was lovable, amir was loving. amir was a sweetheart. amir loved everybody. he was friendly. he liked to joke. he liked to laugh. he had a beautiful smile. and actually, he was a mama's boy and a daddy's boy. when he was little, when he was young, he was an infant. and he slept with you, i would always tell his aunts, amir has to hold your finger when he goes to sleep. because that is how he would cuddle up with me, and he would always hold my finger when he was a baby. >> yeah. >> and i would always know, he would reach out for one of your fingers at night to go to bed. and amir was my...

His father funneled into his account apparently. >> look, god bless fred trump and miss suppohis support. the idea that the president was supported generously by his father, there is nothing wrong with that. the president has created this myth that i got peanuts. if i do the adjustments for inflation, $400 million, you don't think that is peanuts? it is more than a million. and the story says that his father stepped in repeated throw bail him out when he was younger. and a lot of his early enterprises failed. this is what gets under his skin. he does not like to be daddy's boy. >> that's right...

Trump about that, trump would laugh just the same about it that as howard dean says he understand understands the art of politics as it has to do with performance. and my god john meacham, in 2016 apparently that's just as powerful as it was in 1980 when a b list actor ronald reagan burst on the scene and people were offended. just as well as harry truman cursing jfk in 1959-1960 for being a daddy's boy and being a pretty boy and a lot of the old-timers being offended because this guy was going to win the democratic nomination in part because he looked good on tv. >> right. every great politic...

I talked about how we look at donald trump and looking at ben carson and power of celebrity. i remember reading about the contempt that harry truman had for jfk and of course lbj and ike. they saw him as a lightweight as a pretty boy as daddy's boy. there were complaints in 1959 and 1960 that jfk was all about celebrity and all about good looks and this was taking politics in the wrong direction. is there any analogy to 1960, changing of american politics then, and what we're seeing celebrity in overdrive? >> i think there is in the sense that when that debate took place between nixon and jfk,...