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Whether to dump the vice president who was close to bill daly personally and close to the president. they were that worried that they conducted all this research to dump him. and then they decided after getting the research, not deciding ahead of time we love this guy. but after the research saying it's not worth it. the plugs pluses and the minuses don't add up. and take a lot of heat. that's what we know now as a fact. >> here's what i'll say first, chris. mark halperin and john heilemann have written this book in which they've written a lot of explosive stuff and not any of it has been deni...

Of this book that there was a set of focus groups taken, there was money spent to try to decide whether to dump the vice president who was close to bill daly personally and close to the president. they were that worried that they conducted all this research to dump him. and then they decided after getting the research, not deciding ahead of time we love this guy. but after the research saying it's not worth it. and take a lot of heat. that's what we know now as a fact. >> here's what i'll say first, chris. mark halperin and john heilemann have written this book in which they've written a lot o...

Was doing. not denying it. the key is he accepted the fact of this book that there was a set of focus groups taken, there was money spent to try to decide whether to dump the vice president who was close to bill daly personally and close to the president. they were that worried that they conducted all this research to dump him. and then they decided after getting the research, not deciding ahead of time we love this guy. but after the research saying it's not worth it. the plugs pluses and the minuses don't add up. and take a lot of heat. that's what we know now as a fact. >> here's what i'll ...