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See? where were you aiming? >> you suppose to aim for center mass. the subject was sideways, and i could not see her full-motion of her hands or anything. so i guess her movement, you know, caused the discharge to fall where it did. >> what did you think the individual was doing at that moment? >> she was posing a threat to the united states house of representatives. >> tucker: how exactly was she posing a threat? in the interview byrd paints himself as the victim of the killing. here's the key. i could not see her full hands or anything, byrd says. he doesn't explain why he shot babbitt to de...

Leader stacy abram is one example of what we can do. i believe we have a persuasion problem. we try persuade ideological voters, instead of trying on persuade people who don't vote. why it matters and why the party is the right party. she would battleground states like ohio, we have a cultivation problem. in states like georgia and other states in the south and southwest, we have a registration and cultivation problem. so we need one that we follow. to be steadfast instead of always being zoosed by the shiny object which is the presidency. meanwhile we've lost over 900 legislator seats from 20...

You can leave it broken and exploit it and that's what is happening. >> sheriff, let me ask you -- that's a damming statement, that there's an insatiable appetite to do nothing. >> not for me. i'm going to to do what we've been doing for three, four years. and nothing is going to change. that's my message. at least from this sheriff. >> all right. sheriff arpaio and congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. this debate will continue for quite some time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. coming up, later on in our show, we go one on one with jor jorje ramos. he's now taking a side ...