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Service, people in rural america, and it will save about a billion dollars a year, but it's also going to hurt retailers that need that food service as well. ironically they're doing this at the same time, removing a lot of people from the program, while providing anywhere between 15 and $25 billion in direct payments for farmers for losses through these tariffs that are taking place with china. i certainly don't object to some of those payments but at a time when we're moving the poorest people off the snap program, we're certainly not doing the same scrutiny with people who are getting these...

Able to create waivers so people can qualify even if they don't meet the work requirements. under the new rule the only areas that could waive those standards would be those with an unemployment rate of 6% or higher, that is almost double the national average of 3.6%. this new change would kick 688,000 people off of snap. >> joining us now is the former united states secretary of agriculture and the vice president of the aspen institute, dan glichman. tieu for joining us, these work requirements already exist in most places why does restricting waivers have such a big impact on snap users, peo...