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They've become active political parties. the character of the unions have changed materially in that time and so the first amendment issues become much more important, just as mr. janice is suggesting here. >> paul: is there, from a legal point of view, a distinction between private sector unions, people representing a company like ford motor, and public unions which represent the government? >> further to dan's point, we're talking about government worker unions in this. >> paul: correct. >> where they're guaranteed first amendment rights, not the same in a private sector union. i think going...

Strassel and alicia finley. so alicia, you covered this for us. why would the supreme court of pennsylvania throw out a map in 2018 that was written in 2011 if it was so unconstitutional? why didn't they get to it earlier? >> you have liberal groups that sued last year. now you have a democratic governor. and these are partisan elected judges. it's actually a 5-2 democratic majority of the state supreme court. so they knew they had a winning hand on the supreme court when they brought this case. >> paul: thosthis was a moment f political opportunity. >> exactly. a sin l call one at that. -- a ...

Scott walker in wisconsin who last year was promoting a $3 million subdie for fox con for a plan to build flat screen lcd monitors. now he's under pressure to promote a subdi subsidy packager kimberly clark who has announced a layoff. >> paul: dan? >> i'm giving a hit to the american economy. unemployment claims fell to 220,000, the lowest level since 1973, as president trump pointed out in his his cpac speech. he's right. this means wages are going to rise. it impacts one other issue close to him which is where are we going to find the workers when we get down to this level? instead of deport...

Are no longer just unions, they've become active political parties. the character of the unions have changed materially in that time and so the first amendment issues become much more important, just as mr. janice is suggesting here. >> paul: is there, from a legal point of view, a distinction between private sector unions, people representing a company like ford motor, and public unions which represent the government? >> further to dan's point, we're talking about government worker unions in this. >> paul: correct. >> where they're guaranteed first amendment rights, not the same in a private ...

Union, regardless of whether they join the union. they are plight l call. political. wages, health benefits, those are matters of public debate, including merit pay for teachers. unions take positions at the bargaining table. these are issues that do implicate free speech. >> paul: dan? >> to alicia's point. unions have changed over the years. everyone out there probably says i know what unions do, they bargain to protect wages and workers' rights. why are the unionse unions favog comprehensive sex education, voteing rights for felons and things like that. i think the justices understood that ...