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People, not to the american people just in places like iowa, south carolina, nevada but in appalachia and nebraska and you have to be able to talk to everyone. they may not like what you have to say but if they believe you're authentic in your message, they may decide to vote for you. >> dan, simone, let's do this again for the next two years. >> sounds like a plan. >> i'm down, i'm down. >> thanks guys. the vice president led a meeting on the shutdown today but did he make any progress? i'll have the latest next. coming up, should speaker pelosi try to rein in some of the freshmen lawmake...

Spectacularly. no way native american. candidates who can beat donald trump, she has proven she cannot. for that reason alone, democrats can do better. disagree? okay, let's discuss. here to tell me why elizabeth warren should be the 2020 democratic nomnominee, just kidding, former senior adviser to president obama dan phifer and simone sanders. i would not put you in that position. i am kidding, of course, way too early. but dan, to me, even this early, it seems like warren's candidacy is doa. do you honestly think she's the democrat's best bet to beat donald trump? >> i have no idea if she's...

The best most popular finely honed economic message of anyone who's thinking of running and that will be very valuable. there's other challenges. the dna test is something she'll have to navigate. i don't think it will be a hugely damaging problem and she has to answer questions about it. >> simone, to dan's point, having the most popular economic message. i mean, it's bernie sanders' message and to me, from where i stand, bernie is everything warren is but better. he's more energizing, more unifying and certainly more authentic. do you think she can capture his coalition and his appeal if in ...

Against donald trump is some sort of like perfect political candidate designed in a lab. he has flaws as well i'm told so we're going to have to see this play out and she'll make her case and she has real political strengths and challenges and so i cannot tell you. >> of course, and dan, dan, i get you hedging. i understand. it's early. why would anyone come out this early to back anyone? but coming in, and i said this same thing of hillary clinton, coming into the 2016 election, hillary clinton had known challenges. we couldn't know some of the stuff that was going to fall in her path but she...

>> erin -- >> again, whoever it is who's lying is doing so in the most egregious and horrible way every. >> if jim comey does something to attack donald trump, the republicans are going to side with -- or the democrats are going to decide there. if he does the other way, the republicans will side for that. i'm going to call balls and strikes here. there were two losers in the testimony yesterday. the first -- it's hard to say this but i'm going to say this. the first was jim comey. no one thought he v could have been knocked often the high ground and he was knocked off the high ground. the sec...