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2016 meant about 50,000 fewer black votes in michigan, about 50,000 less in pennsylvania, and about 35,000 less in wisconsin. these drops could have something to do with the fact that the first black president was no longer on the ballot. but the question is how effective were the russian attempts to suppress the black vote, and did that make a difference in this election? so let's discuss all of the information i just gave you and more. mark jacobson of georgetown university is here. also josh green, the author of "devil's bargain: steve bannon, donald trump, and the storming of the presidenc...

I think the behavior before the khashoggi murder was beyond disturbing. >> dana: plus, why north carolina officials are refusing to certify the results from one congressional district. this is a month after the elections.

Excited listening to on the pod cast? >> we just had the head of the hockey league effort in terms of getting more diverse audience. this week we have a woman private venture capitalist. >> dana: nice diversity. not just politics, but you can hear from all sorts of successful women on your pod cast. anna palmer, thank you. >> thanks. >> dana: president trump weighing in on the role the saudi crown prince may have played in the murder of washington post columnist jamal khashoggi. >> did they lie to you? >> i don't know. i can say this, he's got many people now that say he had no new jersey. >> ...

Much more so than they want to protect you and that is not where we are coming from. >> republicans gave this na plus, independents started to drift down coming giving him is the. democrats gave him enough. what i think is interesting is where the pop was. when he talked about treating immigrants not better than people here, when he started talking about the issue is they want to protect you, they want to protect them, not us. this america first message works, not the fear-based message in the beginning that some of these people are not good, but let's prioritize the american people first and ...

Almost every other country. if the issue was more firearms in more places, which is what ollie north and the nra advocates for, we would live in the safest country on the planet. >> chris: gun control has generally not been a big -- pro gun control, a big voting issue in elections. you heard oliver north say he's on a campaign to try to reassure politicians that being part or associated with the nra is n a plus, not a minus. he wants to add a million more members/voters. do you think you can make pro gun control issues a voting -- key voting issue in this campaign? >> well, i mean, gun safet...